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PostSubject: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 2:31 pm

I hope this is at the right section (I saw this is also for politics and I think it fits).


Well...check this site: http://blackouteurope.eu/
When a friend of mine first told me about it... I was like "NO WAY!! @___@", but hey...everything is possible (they will vote it tomorrow). Check this as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecoms_Package

So, what do you think about it? I think it's totally unfair. My friend is preparing an e-mail for them. xD



P.S.: here is an example of a letter which you can send, if you want: http://www.blackouteurope.eu/act/letter_to_meps.html (maybe it will help, dunno). Of course, you can personalize it 'cause what you see there it's just a general form of it.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 3:03 pm

Huh...?
Sounds like very bad joke.
I dont belive it can pass...

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 3:14 pm

Well, I hope it's just a bad joke. I'll watch news today and tomorrow and see if something happens.




No more porn... x__x I cannot stand that thought.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 4:30 pm

Me neither I don't think there is a program to sort that much IP's a and requests or that every ISP has capable servers to do the job...

And what they will shut down our internet connection and give access to certain ip's ?

They will force everyone that has a website to pay monthly an amount of money to include their site in a package ?

fuck that...
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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:09 pm

HOLY FUCK!!!

Does anyone know what happened with the court case on Piratebay?

This worries me... severely ... The internet is the last (relatively free) medium we have ...

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:15 pm

I already sent e-mails to all the Romanian euro-parliamentarians. Surprised Me and a friend and we spread the news around although not too many care about it or some don't even believe it, but we'll see... =)
And no, I don't know what happened with that case. o.o

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:27 pm

just did some quick research.

This is a press Release.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/public/story_page/058-54891-124-05-19-909-20090504STO54873-2009-04-05-2009/default_en.htm

See the last paragraph of the first answer. and the answer to the 2nd question.

Are those 2 statements not contradictory?

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:30 pm

Looool cmon i cant believe that you actually believe in all this sh1t...for christ sake people....dun be silly...

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:31 pm

Darckly wrote:
And no, I don't know what happened with that case. o.o


To give a jist of it ... few years ago USA tells Swedish government .. fuck the pirates ... take the site down ... piratebay being sweadish, and with tons of followers, decides to fuck the government right back with protests and blah blah ...

Today, Pirate Bay has an actual political party there which is the major opposition party there. Gotta love the people to back up the website!!! (Swedish people can correct me if i'm wrong)

Last i heard there was a case in court (or intl. court) against piratebay ... don't know what happened to it ... if piratebay lost the case then this package passing would make sense. If piratebay won, then them trying to sneak in the package would make even more sense ...

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:34 pm

Knebley-YU wrote:
Looool cmon i cant believe that you actually believe in all this sh1t...for christ sake people....dun be silly...


1. See the press release dude.
2. There are countries in the world where tons of websites are blocked.

3. It isn't all that difficult to ban the whole internet only opening a few websites.
Add Exception rule "i-am-a-dumb-citizen.com"
Add Block "*.*.*.*"

Your internet is now limited to only that one website, no need to filer any IPs or anything.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:35 pm

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You might choose to have a service-limited package

[...]

Is Internet freedom really at risk?
The Telecoms package has never been about anything to do with restrictions on the internet.



Definitely a contradiction, lol.


And Kneb, lol... Everything is possible. =)



Sucks, anyway.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:43 pm

Nah i think anything of that wont happen. All u have to do is wait and see.. because u cant do anything about it.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 5:55 pm

Yeap, in this moment I did all I could have done (sent those e-mails) so now I can just wait and see. =)

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 6:26 pm

orirate bay got fucked, it was in german newspapers a while ago but dont remember the details, think some guys got prisoned and had to pay tons of money
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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 6:49 pm

reply i got from a friend to my mail.

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this has been in the pipeline for a a few years now. especially after 9,11 and all and how it triggerred an online truth movement. just to restrict how much you know (george orwell's 1984 all over again) I also hear that soon you will have to buy subscriptions to websites instead of just browing whichever one you want.

also, many websites will be shut down etc...to restrict information flow ofcourse...btw, its not only europe, its usa and canada as well. ----> "
ISP's have resolved to restrict the Internet to a TV-like subscription model where users will be forced to pay to visit selected corporate websites by 2012, while others will be blocked, according to a leaked report. Despite some people dismissing the story as a hoax, the wider plan to kill the traditional Internet and replace it with a regulated and controlled Internet 2 is manifestly provable.

"Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet," warns a report that has spread like wildfire across the web over the last few days.

The article, which is accompanied by a You Tube clip, states that Time Magazine writer "Dylan Pattyn" has confirmed the information and is about to release a story - and that the move to effectively shut down the web could come as soon as 2010.

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listen to this lemon-tart http://www.prisonplanet.com/rockefeller-internet-is-%E2%80%9Cnumber-one-national-hazard%E2%80%9D.html

more info on internet closure if you are interested ---> http://prisonplanet.com/search-result.html?cx=007184093999670235891%3A0_8izx-_bou&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=internet&sa=Search#945

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 8:21 pm

Im currently livin in "Småland" which is a small place occupied by Sweden in my opinion.

About Pirate bay the 4 founders are currently awaiting to face 4 years in prison... yea thats right they have been sentenced to 4 F@CKING YEARS IN PRISON.

2008 sometime Swedish government "decided" to create some bullsh!t called "FRA" which gives the government right to check the EVERYTHING swedish people do on the internet. This was during Football "worldchampionship" so most swedish people had no f@ckin clue on whats going on except the few who managed to found out and didnt care much about football.

FRA happened behind regular people's back so because of lack of protest that sh!t went through and all the demonstrations and riots came weeks after when it was too late. I call this foul play by politicians.

The main reason of FRA was to prevent terrorists to use internent and plan attack against sweden. They used one example in Sweden of a place called "Rosengård" were 90% of the population are muslims. Back in the 80's it was a christian area but in the 90's alot of muslims from Albania fled to Sweden and "Rosengård" was one of the place which helped the foreigners to get new homes and such. Then came the Iraq war and "Rosengård" helped alot of Iraqi people to get new homes.

Rosengård is also a part of the city which got the biggest amount of nazis in whole sweden so there ended up with alot of fights between the nazis and "left wings". Also some of the immigrants join these "left wings" organisations so then the nazis said "those f@ckin muslims only comes here and destroy our country". Since the swedish "left wings" are very violent and do not hesitate to use bombs they get labeled as terrorists and then they start to put terrorits labels on muslims because some of them got involved in the "left wing movements".

After the police closed down a mosque there became a riot with bombs and other dangerous sh!t. So then the politicians decided that something got to be done with these "terrorists". (A funny thing is that some of the cops during this riot got recorded when they said things like: "towelheads, monkeys, niggers. These cops didnt get any punishment from the government but they p!ssed off some of the "left wings" so they made sure those cops got their punishment later)

Thats the background to why Sweden did get so f@cked when it comes to the internet. It wasnt related to the illegal downloading and such it was all because they felt that terrorism was growing in Sweden and they used the internet and needed to be stopped.

Because of FRA some internet got restricted and some people decided to get Pirate Bay a trial. This failed because FRA was meant to hunt terrorists. So the 1st April this year(2009) the Swedish government made a new law called "Ipred" which is meant to hunt down the "illegal downloading people". This law managed to get the founders of Pirate Bay to be criminals and now theyre awaiting/facing their 4 years jail sentence.

Swedish people always been very positive and having a nice attitude towards "illegal downloading". As said by Xs USA tried to get Pirate Bay closed but the Swedish people didnt really care and the politicians just kind of ignored since they didnt really care either.

So the only reason why Pirate Bay did end up getting f@cked is because the Swedish government made some new retarded laws because they feared terrorists but then they end up attacking Pirate Bay.

That was some "short" info about Pirate Bay and the background to the swedish laws which made them criminals. Me myself is a member of one of those "left wings" organisations and Ive been deeply involved in this sh!t and studied it alot.

About what Swedish people doing for Pirate Bay. Alot of demonstrations some of them end up as riots. Starting the "Pirate Party". Alot of people are really f@ckin p!ssed in Sweden because of these new laws.

Short info about the Pirate Party... They are probably one of the smallest parties in Sweden. Most of them are around the age of 25... These people are mainly just a bunch of people who spend most of their time in front of the computer and have no idea how politicks works. They also name themselves as anarchists which is quite a stupid move if they want to get some votes. So the Pirate Party isnt really worth anything to be honest.

In my opinion EU is bullsh!t... Just an organisation trying to control countries and then later become a huge organisation aiming for the world. Although if this bullsh!t goes through Im gonna keep on going for an independent "Småland" or move to Norway because they arent members of the EU.

Also to kneb!!!... Trust me such sh!t could definetly happen. In Sweden right now they send fines to people who download something illegally. Imagine downloading 1 song. A few days later you get a fine delivered to your home. The fine is usually around 10 time more money than it would cost you to buy the song legally. That is reality right now in Sweden.

I myself could never Imagine such things would ever happened. But now it did. Although theres ways to get around it. Even if they do restrict the internet I believe people will find a new way to get through it.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 8:26 pm

Also forgot...

For those interested:

The 4 founders of Pirate Bay:

They all got 4 years each in jail + 30 million SEK fine(Would be roughly around 2,9 million Euros)

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 8:34 pm

Darckly wrote:
No more porn... x__x I cannot stand that thought.


Lol did any1 else noticed this? Select white color with mouse to see what darckly wrote LOL! xD good one :P

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 9:46 pm

Knebley-YU wrote:
Darckly wrote:
No more porn... x__x I cannot stand that thought.


Lol did any1 else noticed this? Select white color with mouse to see what darckly wrote LOL! xD good one :P


haha good one i didnt realize it well yeah no mor CENSORED or CENSORED ... Sad Sad Sad

and for kneb no more gayporn sites...

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 9:54 pm

-Censored- FTW!!!! everything else is bad copy of it! xD

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 10:07 pm

nice site, but i think this one fits more to you kneb: -Censored-

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 10:21 pm

Well accidentally i ran onto this. Not recommended for ppl with weak heart!
-Censored-

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Tue May 05, 2009 10:55 pm

haha nice one, it been years since i saw that last time Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 5:29 am

I did -Censor- all links to porn.

Considering this forum got kids so if ya want to give eachother links do it through PM.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 9:57 am

Satanhas wrote:
I did -Censor- all links to porn.

Considering this forum got kids so if ya want to give eachother links do it through PM.


i think satan was the first who clicked through all links.

and with "kids on forum" you mean Emi ? cmon even he saw more better stuff, than on the few links of kneb&me..

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 11:14 am

Theres way more kids on this forum than emi + theres alot of people who reads the forum and doesnt post.

And In my opinion this forum should not contain porn or any other similar links.

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 11:32 am

Satan dude u are taking it way over serious man...its just fun ffs... and sex is smth normal... -.-'

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 11:39 am

So you want porn on this forum?

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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 12:17 pm

Xs wrote:
HOLY FUCK!!!

Does anyone know what happened with the court case on Piratebay?

This worries me... severely ... The internet is the last (relatively free) medium we have ...



don't worry... There is still mininova :)
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PostSubject: Re: The European open internet is under imminent threat   Wed May 06, 2009 2:01 pm

Ofc not porn, but u shouldnt delete links which are posted for fun.

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