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PostSubject: When gaming communities go wrong   Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:18 am

July 6, 2009 5:44 PM PDT

When gaming communities go wrong

by Dave Rosenberg
The more time I spend looking at video games--especially online games and MMPORGs--the more and more strange information that comes out. As with any society, norms and oddities appear as individuals assert their place.

City of Heroes(Credit: City of Heroes)

There's a fascinating (and somewhat terrifying) article about Loyola University media professor David Myers "unwelcome" behavior in the game City of Heroes, where he created a character that everyone hated.

Players tried everything they could to get rid of the pariah, but he kept at, apparently as research, but there had to be hint of satisfaction in his role as the most hated player--probably right until someone threatened to kill him for real.

Myers revealed his identity and his character's purpose in "Play and Punishment: The Sad and Curious Case of Twixt," an academic paper on his experiment published in 2008.

If we assume that games are their own communities and have some level of self-policing (just like open source projects) we can also assume that these things iron themselves out. In this case the community turned completely against the individual and game-maker NCSoft had to step in to moderate a bit.

This all led me to ask: does everything needs a community?

The short answer is it depends. (Note: I'd like to thank business school for that pearl of wisdom that gets you out of answering any question.)

These days every company, project, website, circus clown, and dog websites have community-oriented features that are supposed to facilitate some deeper level of interaction. While some communities thrive, others plateau and become something less than the sponsor wants it to be. That's clearly the case with the City of Heroes example above.

The onus to provide unique, beneficial features and functions falls both on the community sponsor and the users.

Users bring a wealth of materials to communities, but the infrastructure and the impetus to participate has to come from the source. Companies also have to be responsible for what goes on their communities if they want expect the group to be self-governing. Community also takes on very different connotations when relating to online gaming versus software. In software we rarely kill each other repeatedly. Once tends to be enough.

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source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10280604-62.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:41 am

nice read. In conclusion i would have backed Twinxt up... A pvp area is a pvp area and it's normal that there's pvp/pk. I'm not a pvp person (mostly because lack of time to improve my pvp abilities) but i know that if i enter a pvp area i risk of being killed. I don't know how COH/V is made but if that area was not the only area of the game where you could level, if it was just a area where you could level faster, then i would have supported Twinxt.
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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:02 pm

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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:42 pm

rofl So basically this Myers dude made a sociopathic char and "discovered" that when u screw with the status quo few ppl will follow while most of them will hate and ask for ur head. Good thing he had a virtual space for this experiment of his.
I find it funny how he writes about his char as if it was a separate human being. I'm sure that after 2 years of playing his observation wasn't biased at all. Right.
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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:40 am

Why do you find it funny? Do you identify 100% with your game char? If so then it's pretty bad already...
The game char is a toy, it's not you. You can do with it many, many things that you would never do in real life. I, for example, use a female char all the times because i prefer to see a female ass rather than that of a male char. I'M NOT A FEMALE in RL. I use to hack, slash, bash, kill, heavily wound, die, fly and many other things in games that i would never do in RL. Games are fantasies and the game char is an avatar. It's not me and I could never identify myself with it. The interaction with others is a completly other thing. If i say in the game "Get lost!" I am the one who sais it and not the avatar. I interact with all the other USERS (not their chars!!!)


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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:40 am

_Angelica_ wrote:
Why do you find it funny? Do you identify 100% with your game char? If so then it's pretty bad already...
The game char is a toy, it's not you. You can do with it many, many things that you would never do in real life. I, for example, use a female char all the times because i prefer to see a female ass rather than that of a male char. I'M NOT A FEMALE in RL. I use to hack, slash, bash, kill, heavily wound, die, fly and many other things in games that i would never do in RL. Games are fantasies and the game char is an avatar. It's not me and I could never identify myself with it. The interaction with others is a completly other thing. If i say in the game "Get lost!" I am the one who sais it and not the avatar. I interact with all the other USERS (not their chars!!!)

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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:06 pm

I find it funny because 1. he writes as if his char was a (human) being therefore 2. as if his char possessed it's own will, made decisions etc. I couldn't agree more> the char u play with is not u. But he is also 1. not a (human) being therefore 2. it does not choose to close communication channels, kill or anything. My point is that the work of mister Myers is, strictly from my point of view, a joke. I think his so called academic paper lacks neutrality, that his method of research, despite the obvious advantages, could also have affected his cool and objective thinking; also i suppose there was an ethic's breach somewhere but i might be wrong. Most of all, i feel his theory does not bring anything new to the table, no valuable insight. That's all and u are free ofc to prove me wrong.

As for me and my chars, trust me ...they might act crazy but i'm not :)). I am very happy to say that I can make the difference. They are not us, i get it. They are toys, as u say. But would u agree that the toy u chose to play with and the way u do it say something about the person in front of the pc?
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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:57 pm

mamba wrote:
But would u agree that the toy u chose to play with and the way u do it say something about the person in front of the pc?


True our characters are an externalization of our thoughts, feelings, ideas, subconsciousness
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PostSubject: Re: When gaming communities go wrong   Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:02 am

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11-18-2006 00:13:40 [Broadcast] everyone kill twixt all hes doing is being a puss and tping people into groups

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03-01-2007 23:08:57 [Broadcast] I wont be happy untill i kill twixt

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03-22-2007 22:57:55 [Broadcast] go kill twixt

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05-16-2007 14:53:34 [Broadcast] kill Twixt

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05-26-2007 22:32:27 [Broadcast] Kill Twixt once for me, dudes.

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08-03-2007 23:37:48 [Broadcast] hey im trying to kill twixt here!

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09-08-2007 21:12:40 [Broadcast] Come on villians get him kill Twixt

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11-19-2007 19:37:08 [Broadcast] any other heros want confuse>? to kill twixt lol

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12-17-2007 20:37:18 [Broadcast] someone confuse me so i can kill twixt mr limp Dic

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12-18-2007 16:20:36 [Broadcast] can any villian plz fukin kill twixt

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12-28-2007 11:52:07 [Broadcast] heh, i sacrificed myself to try to kill twixt, i feel accomplished


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12-16-2007 17:25:01 [Broadcast] What is it with u TWIXT everyone hates u in real life too?!

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01-05-2007 23:50:45 [Broadcast] dude stfu now, nobody likes you, cause your no fun in pvp

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01-28-2007 17:04:07 [Broadcast] EVERYONE hates you

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04-23-2007 18:52:14 [Broadcast] hey twixt does it suck when everyone hates u?

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08-28-2007 21:46:35 [Broadcast] Twixt thats why no1 likes u

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09-05-2007 17:19:03 [Broadcast] all you do is tp and fear peopel dude EVERYONE HATES YOU lol

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12-16-2007 22:57:11 [Tell] damn dude everyone hates you lol

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12-27-2007 22:29:44 [Broadcast] wow. everyone hates you twixty. that sucks man.

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01-05-2008 21:38:43 [Broadcast] Twixt! Twixt! Did you see that post on the forums! About how everyone hates you!

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02-11-2008 21:18:42 [Broadcast] twit u can't get a team cuz every1 hates u

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02-12-2008 23:44:45 [Broadcast] stfu twixt everyone hates you

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02-18-2008 01:14:36 [Broadcast] twixt, you know NOBODY likes you




im gonna read his "paper" today....
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